Just days after suspending his run for the White House and endorsing Republican nominee Donald Trump, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said in an interview with Tucker Carlson he has been asked to join the ex-president's presidential transition team and "help pick" the administration officials in charge of running the government.
Although Trump and his campaign have tried to distance themselves from the right-wing Heritage Foundation's extremist and now-toxic Project 2025, what RFK Jr. is describing is central to what Project 2025 was designed to do: Heritage calls its nearly 900-page Project 2025 "Mandate for Leadership" a "Presidential Transition Project."
"It is not enough for conservatives to win elections. If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left, we need both a governing agenda and the right people in place, ready to carry this agenda out on day one of the next conservative administration," explains The Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 website. "This is the goal of the 2025 Presidential Transition Project. The project will build on four pillars that will, collectively, pave the way for an effective conservative administration: a policy agenda, personnel, training, and a 180-day playbook."
ProPublica earlier this month explained, "The most important pillar of Project 2025 has always been about personnel, not policy. Or rather, the whole effort is animated by the Reagan-era maxim that personnel is policy, that power flows from having the right people in the right jobs. To that end, the plan’s most pertinent proposal is reinstating Schedule F — a provision unveiled near the very end of Trump’s term, then repealed by the Biden administration — which would shift as many as 50,000 career employees in policy-shaping positions into a new job category that would make them much easier to fire."
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Enter RFK Jr., an attorney, conspiracy theorist, anti-vaxxer, and HIV/AIDS denialist. Despite having initially launched his 2024 campaign as a Democrat, the Kennedy scion denounced by some of his family members is apparently familiar with Project 2025.
"Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a longtime Democrat populist running for president as an independent, has a copy of Heritage’s 'Mandate for Leadership' on his desk. He attributes his own study of Heritage’s plan as an effort to collect 'all of these different points of view about wasteful programs in government that could be eliminated,'" Deseret News reported in December of 2023. "Kennedy denies that he’s had any conversations with Project 2025, but he left the door open."
Last month the progressive political action committee MoveOn commented on the report, writing: "That doesn’t seem like reference material a so-called 'independent' candidate would need to have."
The progressive group's spokesperson Britt Jacovich wrote: “RFK Jr. has told us he’s open to using MAGA’s Project 2025 playbook for inspiration. That’s troubling and disqualifying. The Trump and Heritage Foundation effort would gut checks and balances and give MAGA full rein to ban abortions and end the rule of law by allowing the Justice Department to prosecute Trump’s political enemies.”
“You either support Trump and Project 2025, or you don’t," Jacovich added. "By spoiling the race and reelecting Trump, he’d all but ensure this hellscape would become the law of the land.”
Project 2025 also appears to be familiar with RFK Jr.
Last year in a Wall Street Journal op-ed, James Bacon, described in the WSJ as "a senior adviser to the Heritage Foundation’s Presidential Transition Project," penned a piece titled, "2024 Presidential Candidates Against the Administrative State."
"Trump, DeSantis and even Robert F. Kennedy Jr.," he wrote, "recognize the need to reassert political control."
"Robert F. Kennedy Jr.," he added, "began his White House bid by saying he’d 'take the CIA and shatter it into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.'"
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Fast forward to last week.
Paul Dans, the former Heritage official who was head of Project 2025 until he "stepped down amid intense criticism including from the former president," as CNN reported his exit at the end of July, is supportive of RFK Jr.
"I can't tell you how many MAGA people that I work with, really the hardcore, the most based, who are huge RFK Jr. fans," Dans said last week, Media Matters reported. "And they kind of were always kind of talking about it. But, remember, RFK Jr. went and interviewed for a job in 2016 at Trump Tower. So, you know, their relationship goes back years. Obviously there's a lot that doesn't -- some of his positions aren't square with America First, traditional America First. But certainly, there's no one better, I think, in the entire country to take on the administrative state, particularly HHS."
In his interview with far-right host Tucker Carlson, RFK Jr. says, "I've been asked to go on to the transition team to help pick the people who will be running the government.”
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RFK Jr tells Tucker Carlson that Trump asked him to join his transition team to “help pick the people who will be running the government”
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