As part of an interview with the executive director of America’s Voice, Greg Sargent claimed that Donald Trump confidante Alina Habba used word games during a recent Fox News interview to disguise the president-elect's real plan for dealing with the families of undocumented migrants.
In a transcript from his New Republic "Daily Blast" podcast, Sargent asked Vanessa Cardenas to dig into Habba's defense of the first Trump term when migrant families were torn apart as they were put in detention centers, denying it had ever happened, and then asserting it would not happen after he is sworn in next January.
Speaking with the Fox host, Habba, recently appointed by Trump as counselor to the president, complained, "Nobody is breaking up families. Nobody is targeting individuals and making sure that one over the other goes out. That doesn’t happen under President Trump. It didn’t happen before. But you do not have a right to come here to endanger us or to not come in here the right way."
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She then added, "I can assure you, [Trump 'border czar'] Tom Homan, as tough as nails as he is—he’s looking out for us, and child trafficking is something he’s spoken about extensively. And that is why he wants to get families, if they will cooperate, out and in the right way."
According to Sargent, Habba's mention of "families" being forced out and given a chance to come back in was a tipoff.
Calling it "spin," he asked his guest, "Habba clearly is trying to say, 'Don’t worry, you won’t see families separated like during Trump’s first term.' But then she gives away the game at the end saying we’re going to have to 'remove entire families.' Your thoughts?"
Cardenas admitted, "It sounds like they are rewriting their whole script."
"We all remember the family separations that occur; we all remember the kids in cages; we all remember the kids that were forced to be removed from their parents’ arms. And that was not something that we imagined. It’s something that actually happened, and that’s why the American public revolted against those policies," she continued before adding, "The last piece of evidence for that is people like Stephen Miller and Tom Homan, who are obviously key figures in the Trump administration, have the intention and the desire, and they have been very clear about their plans to target as many people as possible. Tom Homan, in previous interviews, have said things like no one is off the table, meaning that they’re going to deport anyone that they deem should not be here. From what we have heard, it’s pretty much undocumented immigrants, period."
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