I thought this was an excellent point that a lot of people miss. The people who need to see Kamala Harris no longer watch establishment shows like Morning Joe, as Anand Giridharadas points out.
And that's why we see her seeking out popular podcasts.
"We were just saying off air one of the things someone said when I was coming up in journalism is, good interviews require friction," Giridharadas said.
"If it's two people just, you know, enjoying each other's ideas, it's pleasant but not necessarily entertaining to watch. Kamala Harris is a prosecutor. She spent a lot of her time coming up cross-examining people. I think some of her strongest moments before this presidential campaign were in those Senate hearings when she had hostile witnesses. And I think often what happens in politics as we know is, it's the people around you who want to kind of shrink wrap you when often candidates themselves are more fearless than the second- and third-tier staffers.
"I think it's great she has been out in a way she hasn't. In some ways there was a little bit of a kind of preserving the Biden reticence, which she's a different person than Biden. There is no need to protect her from the public in any form. And so being out there as she was in the last week is great, but it wasn't super frictional. It was just being out there. a great first step. I think the next wave is friction. She has done Fox News. Charlamagne Tha God is not necessarily a layup for her. I think Joe Rogan would be fantastic," he said.
