Historian and Georgetown professor Thomas Zimmer says "Project 2025 is their declaration of war on this idea of America. That's what this is. And so in many ways, this is on the ballot in November." In a June podcast interview with MSNBC's Chris Hayes, Zimmer continued, "These people could not possibly be clearer about what they want for the country. So at least trust them and believe them when they say they are just fundamentally not on board with this vision of an egalitarian, pluralistic democracy."
"Those are the stakes. And I think this is really, you know, in a fundamental way in November is going to be a referendum on whether or not we want to continue down this path towards multiracial, pluralistic, egalitarianism or not. And this should be read as a reminder of the fact that those are the actual stakes in the election. "
People Need to Take Project 2025 Seriously
The Georgetown professor told Hayes that the "biggest mistake" people make about Project 2025 is not taking the Republican plans seriously. Zimmer explained that many people believe since Trump was in power before, a second term would be "more of the same."