Well I tried to see if I could grab a cancelled Middle Fork of the Salmon River permit this morning, March 23rd. I was refreshing my computer several times every few seconds just before my Atomic Clock read 8 AM. I was going to try and snag a permit for the month of July, when all of a sudden several little blue dates came up on my screen and I clicked on one within a second after it appeared on my screen and then hit reserve within a second to only see on the screen that my date I had clicked on and reserved was in fact not available. The computer God's removed it from my computer screen just that fast. The date I clicked on was just about a week after the 4th of July. I had the date clicked on and reserved within 3 seconds only to see it disappear into cyberspace and In the blink of an eye all of the little blue squares for June, July and August had disappeared. Made me think I was at a David Copperfield Magic Show or watching card tricks on the streets of New York by a slight of hand magician. WELLLL now here is my question for the all of you all knowing and very wise people who frequent this forum? When will cancelled permits from here on appear on the Recreation.Gov site ? Is it going to be as in the past where cancellations will be posted at 8 AM Mountain Standard time and then it is up to the person who has the fastest internet service and fastest computer processor chips, and computer speed to be lucky enough to snag a permit, or will permits appear just out of the blue at any given time. Does the race go the tortoise or the hare? I have a pretty fast internet connection speed and computer processor but from the time that the permits appeared this morning and from my fingers clicked on an available blue date on my computer screen and then hit reserve, it was less than 2 seconds time and I was still not fast enough or lucky enough to claim the permit, even though I did have the permit locked in and reserved it was snatched away from my screen. Does anyone know when and how future cancelled permits are going to appear on REC.GOV's site? Will it be random times during a given day, or a 8 AM free for all to see who has the fastest and luckiest fingers for 1 second beginning at 8 AM each day? Well for now I am going to follow up on plan #2 in June and take a couple of my sons and a grandson and head up to Alaska to do some combat fishing for Salmon. Combat fishing in the Kenai or Russian River is just about as fun as Combat mouse clicking to get a Middle Fork of the Salmon Cancellation permit. The only exception from Combat Fishing and Combat Clicking and Typing is that every now and then during the fishing, I actually hook into a salmon and land it. Where as to here I hooked into a permit, landed it and watched it jump back into the river of cyberspace of Rec.Gov's computer software and hardware only to wonder if it the date was actually snagged, or placed back into the pool for another day Mouse Clicking For River Permits Adventures. If anyone has information on how permits will now appear on REC.Gov I would be most appreciative to know how The Recreation Government Gods who hold, release, and make rules of who, why, how and when, the permits for 2019 will be made available. ( Yes I am addressing you G-3 and G-4 government employees who are running this show and have no idea what whitewater is or even where the Middle Fork of the Salmon River is Located. Well now I am off to practicing my typing and mouse clicking skills. Thanks for all your great posts. Maybe I can hook up with a group that is going to run the Middle Fork in July.